History of Aryans (Some questions)

Ever wondered how is it that even though Indus valley civilization is considered the oldest civilization, Tamil is considered to be the oldest language?

Well this article from mint raises some more such questions.. read it in your leisure.

When exactly did India’s most famous battle — Kurukshetra — take place? My search uncovered some intriguing details. Historians disagree on the date. It ranges from around 3200 BC to 700 BC — a period of 2,500 years! Curiously, historians unanimously agree that Kurukshetra did not take place between 2500 BC and 1500 BC. This is the period when the Indus Valley civilization “collapsed”.
History reveals that around 2000-1800 BC, all along the Euro-Asian west-east axis, a horde of invaders, from above the 50N latitudes called the horse-people, pushed down. Every civilization — China, India, Mesopotamia, Anatolia and Greece — was overcome as they had the most powerful weapon known then — the horse chariot. Who were the invaders and who were the displaced?
Think why no one wants to place the Kurukshetra battle in that gap of 1,000 years. It would tantamount to admitting that the Pandavas and/or the Kauravas were the “invaders” or “outsiders” — the Aryans who displaced the then flourishing Indus Valley civilization and pushed it south to become the Dravidian culture. This aspect has assumed political overtones and, hence, the denials and silence over it.
Here’s what happened. There was an Indus Valley civilization which belonged to the Vedic culture. The Aryans, the horse-chariot people, displaced and pushed it south. The horse-people with no culture of their own adapted the Vedic culture and the Vedic Indus Valley civilization had a second innings.
Both the epics, Ramayan and Mahabharat, talk of battles involving horses and chariots. There is no evidence of any horse in present-day India and Pakistan till 2000-1800 BC. The horse came carrying the invaders from the northern latitudes. Next, take a globe. Put your thumb at the point where the 55 degrees east longitude and 55 degrees north latitude intersect. This will be just south of the Urals, above the mid-point between the Caspian and Aral Seas, north of Kazakhstan. With your thumb as the fulcrum and your little finger on Gujarat, draw an arc. It will end in Spain. This entire swathe of land shares the Indo-European group of languages. Of course, there are exceptions — Arabic, Basque, Turkish, etc.
But the most startling exception lies in the Kalat region of Baluchistan, Pakistan, and its border with Afghanistan. Nestled there today are more than two million people who speak Brahui, a Dravidian group language! But they did not “get” there. They were already there and became the typical “pocket” when invasions swept the majority away. That’s why Tamil is the oldest of all present Indian languages and Tamilians were perhaps the first Sindhis! After all they drank jhalam (Tamil for water) from the river that has this name. Will someone explain this paradox — if the Indus Valley civilization is the oldest in India, how is Tamil the oldest language? Unless the Dravidian civilization predates the Indus Valley.
Look below the 55E-55N point and at the routes by which you can reach the extremities of your arc. Every point can be reached by continuing along rivers or shores of lakes, i.e., the invasion-cum-migration had the most important resource necessary to travel such vast distances — water. The most famous rivers in Central Asia are the Syr Darya and Amu Darya! The “oldest” DNA found in an Indian was in Tamil Nadu, near Madurai. How about a DNA survey of those in north/north-west India, the present inhabitants of the steppes and those living between 25 degrees and 45 degrees north latitudes in West Asia and Europe?
The biggest give-away is the “18-day” war. Military historians will tell you man’s ability to sustain a battle proper (sieges are not battles) for more than a day came only when railways made logistics feasible. Waterloo (AD 1815), probably the last big battle before railways, took just one day. The “day” in the Kurukshetra battle is evidently metaphorical. For, it was oral history. It was more likely to have been 18 months or even 18 years — just the time needed for a migration-cum-invasion to displace a culture and a civilization 3,500 years ago.
If the Mahabharat involved the horse-people, then what about the more antiquated Ramayan, which talks not only of horses, but also the famed Asvamedha yagna? Was Ram a Cossack, the most famed of all horse-people? Doesn’t “Valmiki” sound Russian, perhaps a corruption of Vladmikhailovich, who lived in the present Russian town named Sverdlovsk, formerly perhaps Swargalok? If we don’t accept the invasion theory, then the only other explanation is that both Mahabharat and Ramayan took place outside India, on the Russian steppes, and their stories have come down to us as oral histories through the horse-people, which were then refined to suit cultural and later ethnic, social and political agendas.
T.R. Ramaswami


Are you a prostitute?

I found this very interesting picture in an email forward. Although on the first glance it looks like a very funny and innovative way to address a very important problem faced by hotel management. And from my experience in tourist places in Goa and Thailand i know how big a turn off these can be.

However on second looks it makes me asks one question. Why is it that a Mexican joint in America trying to put this message in Chinese and not Spanish?
PS: You can dismiss me by saying i think too much 🙁


thought of the day

♫ a modest girl never pursues a man; nor does a mouse-trap pursue a mouse

Forwarded by Amit


Wedding dresses

Little Billy walks up to his Mom one day while she’s folding clothes, “Mom, why are wedding dresses white?” asks Billy.
“Well honey thats so the Groom knows his Bride is Pure.” After contemplating this for a few days Billy asks his Father. “Dad, why are wedding dresses white?”
Well son, all household appliances come in white”…


Allergic to Hygiene

Somehow it seems that my stomach is sensitive to hygienic food. I eat all sorts of crap (including food from roadside stalls and from my office cafeteria). Sometimes when I travel, I have to eat food whose name I cannot even pronounce, yet I rarely get stomach upset. However, everytime within 24 hours of my visiting my parents house, I get a stomach upset. Usually its loose motions, but recently its also accompanied by food poisoning.
The strangest thing is that the same food is eaten regularly the rest of the members of the family (that also includes my grand parents who are in their late 80s) and they never get ill. My mother cooks real hygienic food and also does not deep fry or add too much of ghee in my meals. I used to enjoy it during my childhood, but now it seems like my stomach cannot tolerate it any more.

My mother has a conspiracy theory that I am allergic to Hygienic environment. What do you think it is?


Concept of leave

To start with, here is a dilbert strip trying to explain what usually the managers think about the output we produce.

I was just wondering why my office has a concept of Leaves and vacation.
Here is a background:
I work in a product company and out here, every single person has different sets of responsibility and areas of specialization. Net result is that a manager cannot offload one engineer’s task to another engineer easily. (unless he accounts for the time that would require to train that new engineer to get familiarize with the setup.)

So the net result is that an worker here is responsible to get the work done. It does not matter how many long hours he takes, how many weekends he works (and yes, there is no overtime). If I want to take a vacation, then I am expected to work a little harder before the vacation and after that so that the project deadline does not suffer because or me.

This phenomenon makes me wonder:
Since I am responsible for my output and that does not suffer because of the fact that I had taken a week off, should my company deduct no of leaves for that period?
How is it in your office?

Humor Photography

man of the year

One thing remarkable about this guy is that he has his priorities right.


Medical Certificate

I saw this post on Satish’s blog and I strongly recommend that everybody should get it signed by his or her doctor

Certified that Mr. /Miss ____________ _____ , working in your organization, is suffering from ‘time-bound’ illness. Due to this, he will NOT be able to work more than 8 hours a day and 5 days a week.

Any attempt to stretch beyond this timing will lead to severe health problems. The losses to the company due to medical reimbursements will be far more compared to the gains made by stretching beyond 8 hours.

It is also warned to keep my patient away from any kind of shocking news such as “Come over weekend..”, “Let’s work on holiday..”, “Leave cannot be granted” etc. which can directly lead to heart strokes.

In view of the above, it is strongly recommended to adjust your deadlines in accordance with the convenience of my patient.

Dr. Impatient
Cyber Clinic



A nice picture depicting the state of the management schools in our country.

BTW folks I have decided to devote the next 2 years of my life pursuing MBA.
It has not been a simple decision for me but I think it is the right one. Wish me luck and pray that I am not ragged too much.


Doctors vs Gun Owners

(A) The number of physicians in the United States is 700,000.
(B) Accidental deaths caused by physicians per year are 120,000.
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health Human Services.

Now think about this:

(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000. (80 million)
(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, in all age groups is 1,500.
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .000188.

Statistics courtesy of FBI


So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

Remember, ‘Guns don’t kill people, doctors do.’


Please alert your friends to this alarming threat!! We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!!